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        <title>ActiveMQ on SWiK</title>
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        <doap:description>&lt;p&gt;ActiveMQ is a &lt;a class="wikilink" href="http://swik.net/Message-Broker"&gt;Message Broker&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wikilink" href="http://swik.net/JMS"&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;JMS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 1.1 provider.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;It supports:&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wikilink" href="http://swik.net/clustering"&gt;clustering&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;peer networks&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;discovery&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;TCP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wikilink" href="http://swik.net/SSL"&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;SSL&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;multicast&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;persistence&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;XA&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;In addition, it integrates seamlessly into &lt;a class="wikilink" href="http://swik.net/J2EE"&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;J2EE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 1.4 containers, light weight containers and any &lt;a class="wikilink" href="http://swik.net/Java"&gt;Java&lt;/a&gt; application.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;ActiveMQ is included in &lt;a class="wikilink" href="http://swik.net/SourceLabs"&gt;SourceLabs&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sourcelabs.com"&gt;Self-Support for Open Source Java&lt;/a&gt; offering.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;h3&gt;Other message brokers&lt;/h3&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;ActiveMQ competes with Microsoft Biztalk, Oracle Message Broker, Websphere Message Broker, and other proprietary message brokers.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;ActiveMQ is the highest profile of the open source message brokers, and the most liberally licensed.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wikilink" href="http://swik.net/Proteus"&gt;Proteus&lt;/a&gt; &amp;#8211; &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.info-scape.com/proteus/"&gt;proteus&lt;/a&gt; is an alternative message broker and framework that is licensed under the &lt;a class="wikilink" href="http://swik.net/license:gpl"&gt;gpl&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Information on the latest (5.0) &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=47869"&gt;release&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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	clustering
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		XA
	


	In addition, it integrates seamlessly into J2EE 1.4 containers, light weight containers and any Java application.


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            <title>Ramesh Parthasarathy&#039;s Blog: GlassFish V2 and ActiveMQ 4.1</title>
            <link>http://swik.net/GlassFish/del.icio.us%2Ftag%2Fglassfish/Ramesh+Parthasarathy%27s+Blog%3A+GlassFish+V2+and+ActiveMQ+4.1/ccu86</link>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:08:21 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Ramesh Parthasarathy&#039;s Blog: GlassFish V2 and ActiveMQ 4.1</title>
            <link>http://swik.net/GlassFish/del.icio.us%2Ftag%2Fglassfish/Ramesh+Parthasarathy%27s+Blog%3A+GlassFish+V2+and+ActiveMQ+4.1/cbveh</link>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:03:40 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>SLP v2.0.0 Released</title>
            <link>http://swik.net/ActiveMQ/Blog%3A+ActiveMQ+%28ACTIVEMQ%29/SLP+v2.0.0+Released/cbtlx</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;
        News Item
            &lt;b&gt;edited&lt;/b&gt; by
                    &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/~maguro&quot;&gt;Alan D. Cabrera&lt;/a&gt;
            &lt;/p&gt;
        &lt;div style=&quot;border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-bottom: 1px solid #ddd; padding: 10px;&quot;&gt;
         &lt;p&gt;It is a rewrite of SLP 1.0.x, hence 2.x is not API compatible with 1.x, but the API should be cleaner and more deployment scenarios are supported.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The online documentation has been already updated.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Most notables new features are:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Support for JDK 5 enum and generics.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Support for embeddable &lt;tt&gt;ServiceAgent&lt;/tt&gt;, to be started in-VM with the service provider&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Support for standalone &lt;tt&gt;ServiceAgentServer&lt;/tt&gt;, to be deployed as standalone on a host&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Support for thread-less, non-listening &lt;tt&gt;ServiceAgentClient&lt;/tt&gt; and &lt;tt&gt;UserAgentClient&lt;/tt&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Interoperable with OpenSLP 1.2.1 and the upcoming 2.0 (for the implemented messages)&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Richer Javadocs.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;


&lt;h3&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;SLPv2.0.0Released-Subtask&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Sub-task&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-40&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-40&lt;/a&gt; - JavaDocs for org.livetribe.slp.api&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;h3&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;SLPv2.0.0Released-Bug&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Bug&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-56&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-56&lt;/a&gt; - OSGi headers need to be fixed&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-57&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-57&lt;/a&gt; - ServiceAgent server must not renew service registrations&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-61&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-61&lt;/a&gt; - AbstractServer is not thread safe&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;h3&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;SLPv2.0.0Released-Improvement&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Improvement&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-17&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-17&lt;/a&gt; - Ability to statically specify DirectoryAgents in &lt;tt&gt;[User|Service]Agents&lt;/tt&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-32&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-32&lt;/a&gt; - JavaDocs for the API classes&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-54&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-54&lt;/a&gt; - Convert SLP 2.0 to use slf4j&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-55&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-55&lt;/a&gt; - Javadocs for SLP 2.0&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-58&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-58&lt;/a&gt; - Allow ServiceAgentClient to connect to a configurable address&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-60&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-60&lt;/a&gt; - Allow ServiceAgentClient to use a list of directory agents&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;h3&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;SLPv2.0.0Released-NewFeature&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;New Feature&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-7&lt;/a&gt; - Need JavaBean events for SLP events&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-31&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-31&lt;/a&gt; - Implement a lightweight UserAgent&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/LIVETRIBE-53&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LIVETRIBE-53&lt;/a&gt; - Constructors without Settings parameter&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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       &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/LIVETRIBE/2008/08/07/SLP+v2.0.0+Released&quot;&gt;View Online&lt;/a&gt;
           &lt;/div&gt;</description>
            
            <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:02:22 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>Jikes RVM 3.0.0 released</title>
            <link>http://swik.net/ActiveMQ/Blog%3A+ActiveMQ+%28ACTIVEMQ%29/Jikes+RVM+3.0.0+released/cbtkj</link>
            <description>&lt;p&gt;
        News Item
            &lt;b&gt;edited&lt;/b&gt; by
                    &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/~ianrogers&quot;&gt;Ian Rogers&lt;/a&gt;
            &lt;/p&gt;
        &lt;div style=&quot;border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-bottom: 1px solid #ddd; padding: 10px;&quot;&gt;
         &lt;p&gt;We&#039;re very happy to announce the release of Jikes RVM version 3.0.0.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The road towards 3.0 began just about two years ago and a large number of people, both on the core team and from our user community at large, have contributed to making it a success. Thank You&amp;#33;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The release is available for download at &lt;a href=&quot;http://downloads.sourceforge.net/jikesrvm/jikesrvm-3.0.0.tar.bz2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://downloads.sourceforge.net/jikesrvm/jikesrvm-3.0.0.tar.bz2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The detailed release notes for major changes since 2.9.3 can be found below or in JIRA (&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/RVM/fixforversion/13530&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/RVM/fixforversion/13530&lt;/a&gt;),&lt;br/&gt;
but we&#039;d like to highlight some of the larger themes that went into the 3.0 release (many of which have already been released in the 2.9.x releases we&#039;ve made along the way).&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;&amp;#42; Normalization of source code and build process&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Complete rewrite of the build/test systems to use ant.&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Jikes RVM can be developed in Eclipse using the JDT&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Extensive restructuring of package structure&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Removal of VM&amp;#95; and OPT&amp;#95; prefixes from all source files.&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;&amp;#42; Increased system stability and performance&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; A new continuous testing system (&lt;a href=&quot;http://jikesrvm.anu.edu.au/cattrack&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jikesrvm.anu.edu.au/cattrack&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Concerted stability and performance drives&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;&amp;#42; Java 5 support&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Support for Java 5 language features&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Use of Java 5 language features throughout the code base&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Detailed list (89 issues closed in the 3 months since 2.9.3)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;#42;&amp;#42; New Feature&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-358] - Initial support for Apache Harmony class library&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-480] - Spec JVM 2008 regression test&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-534] - MMTk Test harness&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-540] - Implement java.lang.Compiler&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-591] - Support for jdocs.com javadoc&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-592] - Checks on creating ObjectReferences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;&amp;#42;&amp;#42; Improvement&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-72] - NonMoving annotations for classes instances of which should be allocated to the immortal heap&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-273] - Remove VM&amp;#95; prefix from all VM classes&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-275] - Remove VMOpt prefix from opt compiler classes that go into bootimage&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-282] - Make dumpVirtualMachine more defensive&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-329] - Specialize IA32 assembler for lister vs. non-lister&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-333] - Annotations used for VM Pragmas (NoInline, Uninterruptible, etc) probably should not be as closed linked to classloaders&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-445] - Clean up handling of JTOC&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-449] - Handle instanceof and checkcast in ShortArray scalar replacer&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-477] - Gather new compiler DNA&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-501] - BuildWithAllClasses is (practically) unused&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-502] - Dead code elimination of pure calls&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-505] - Eliminate calls to VM_Class.getClass..FromStackFrame when stack frame is determinable&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-508] - Have hash map where entries are completely immutable saving references from boot image root set&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-510] - Create top level common directory to make it easier to split out and share useful components from rvm and MMTk&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-511] - Split out MMTk option processing support&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-512] - Experiment with freezing bucket array in VM_HashMap/VM_HashSet&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-513] - Large arrays in boot image cause memory leak&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-525] - Upgrade to GNU classpath 0.97.2&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-537] - Implement inline mustImplementInterface sequence for invokeinterface in baseline compilers&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-538] - Inline checkcast/instanceof sequences in baseline compiler for simple cases&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-572] - Remove OSR&amp;#95; and BC&amp;#95; prefixes from OnStackReplacement code&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-593] - Extra checks on references being traced in rvm&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-603] - Improve intel baseline prologue/epilogue/call by use push/pop instead of mov [sp]&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-594] - Naming of MM_Interface&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;&amp;#42;&amp;#42; Bug&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-46] - CaffieneMark failures on AIX/PPC&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-47] - DaCapo regressions on AIX/PPC&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-58] - Linker errors under AIX/ppc&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-105] - sysNetSelect doesnt seem to be avoiding the syswrap select&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-187] - VM_OptGenericMapIterator: findGCMapIndex failed&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-221] - Specialized scanning broken on ppc64-aix?&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-234] - Annotation issues: not implemented via proxy classes, support for serialization&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-269] - unresolved invokeinterface on &amp;lt;null&amp;gt; should force classloading before rasiing NPE&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-271] - Timeouts for stress are not correct&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-303] - Cannot modify accessible final instance fields&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-325] - Spec JVM 98 jack failing with OOMs&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-327] - Performance degredation in IA32 assembler&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-332] - Eclipse 3.2 fails to run on the RVM&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-369] - PPC32-OSX - Crash in GC when a stack contains native frames&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-372] - Integer overflow in sysNanoTime&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-423] - Fop performance strangeness&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-442] - All poisoned tests fail PPC 32&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-454] - The sub-test TestAnnotationInheritance of the basic tests is excluded until it can be fixed&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-458] - Poisoned bit test highlights JNI problem&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-469] - Fix IA32 assembler to use Address instead of Offset for absolute addressing&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-482] - Crash when running Production_Opt0_perf portion of compiler-dna test run&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-483] - Conditionalize fsqrt generation on PowerPC&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-492] - Dumping empty stack kills VM&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-493] - VM_Annotation.readValue doesn&#039;t use the correct classloader&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-494] - Conversion between type descriptors, class names, and file names in VM_Atom behaves inconsistently&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-495] - Crash during first major GC on PPC64 tests when running with &amp;#45;X:processors=2&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-497] - New scan boot image assertion failing poisoned tests&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-499] - Overflowing JTOC during DaCapo eclipse run on PPC64 AIX&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-500] - No such field error: TreeMap$SubMap.minKey&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-504] - Increase time out on DaCapo eclipse for rvmppclnx64&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-506] - The field last in VM_HashMap and VM_HashSet is only ever set to null&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-514] - Pure on mathMagic breaks dacapo sunflow&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-521] - Freshly checked out r14346 fails to build with an uninterruptible violation&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-526] - GNU Classpath build: paths too long in check_jni.sh&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-527] - Harmony doesn&#039;t build 32bit libraries as necessary for x86_64 build&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-529] - Implement reflection API for Harmony&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-531] - Boot image stack size too small&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-541] - gc stress failures&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-542] - Incorrect encoding of inner class native method names&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-543] - Invoking JNI_OnLoad of unrelated libraries when loading a library with no JNI_OnLoad&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-544] - Class argument in NewObject ignored&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-547] - Building the boot image with the opt compiler and Harmony fails&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-550] - Implementation of isZero magic in PPC baseline compiler can overflow expression stack and corrupt stack frame&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-571] - BigDecimal Pure annotations causes crash on SPECjbb2005 for FullAdaptiveMarkSweep&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-582] - Fix all javadoc &quot;syntax&quot; errors&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-583] - Incorrect rounding on simplified integer divide&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-585] - RVM Identity HashMap doesn&#039;t use identity hashCode.. only identity.equals&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-587] - IdentityHashMaps in the bootimage&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-588] - Assertion failure in BC2IR for primitive array load&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-597] - Array index out of bounds in BC2IR generation context&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-598] - Increase use of unpreemptible&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-599] - New poisoned test failures on x86&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-608] - Object replacement ignores finalizer methods&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;&amp;#42;&amp;#42; Task and Sub-Task&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-37] - Doccument the command line options&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-42] - Build/Test infrastructiure to compute compiler DNA&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-490] - Null Pointer Exception in gnu.xml.transform.ParameterNode.clone&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-518] - Change build logic so that the VM prefix on a class name does not control inclusion in the bootimage&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-519] - Rename classes currently with VM&amp;#95; prefix that will be confusing without it&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-520] - Update userguide to remove VM&amp;#95; (and OPT_) prefix globally.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

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            <title>Jikes RVM 3.0.0 released</title>
            <link>http://swik.net/ActiveMQ/Blog%3A+ActiveMQ+%28ACTIVEMQ%29/Jikes+RVM+3.0.0+released/cbth0</link>
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         &lt;p&gt;We&#039;re very happy to announce the release of Jikes RVM version 3.0.0.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The road towards 3.0 began just about two years ago and a large number of people, both on the core team and from our user community at large, have contributed to making it a success. T&lt;br/&gt;
hank You&amp;#33;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The release is available for download at &lt;a href=&quot;http://downloads.sourceforge.net/jikesrvm/jikesrvm-3.0.0.tar.bz2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://downloads.sourceforge.net/jikesrvm/jikesrvm-3.0.0.tar.bz2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The detailed release notes for major changes since 2.9.3 can be found below or in JIRA (&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/RVM/fixforversion/13530&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/RVM/fixforversion/13530&lt;/a&gt;),&lt;br/&gt;
but we&#039;d like to highlight some of the larger themes that went into the 3.0 release (many of which have already been released in the 2.9.x releases we&#039;ve made along the way).&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;&amp;#42; Normalization of source code and build process&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Complete rewrite of the build/test systems to use ant.&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Jikes RVM can be developed in Eclipse using the JDT&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Extensive restructuring of package structure&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Removal of VM&amp;#95; and OPT&amp;#95; prefixes from all source files.&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;&amp;#42; Increased system stability and performance&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; A new continuous testing system (&lt;a href=&quot;http://jikesrvm.anu.edu.au/cattrack&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jikesrvm.anu.edu.au/cattrack&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Concerted stability and performance drives&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;&amp;#42; Java 5 support&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Support for Java 5 language features&lt;br/&gt;
 &amp;#42;*&amp;#42; Use of Java 5 language features throughout the code base&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Detailed list (89 issues closed in the 3 months since 2.9.3)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;#42;&amp;#42; New Feature&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-358] - Initial support for Apache Harmony class library&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-480] - Spec JVM 2008 regression test&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-534] - MMTk Test harness&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-540] - Implement java.lang.Compiler&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-591] - Support for jdocs.com javadoc&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-592] - Checks on creating ObjectReferences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;&amp;#42;&amp;#42; Improvement&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-72] - NonMoving annotations for classes instances of which should be allocated to the immortal heap&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-273] - Remove VM&amp;#95; prefix from all VM classes&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-275] - Remove VMOpt prefix from opt compiler classes that go into bootimage&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-282] - Make dumpVirtualMachine more defensive&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-329] - Specialize IA32 assembler for lister vs. non-lister&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-333] - Annotations used for VM Pragmas (NoInline, Uninterruptible, etc) probably should not be as closed linked to classloaders&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-445] - Clean up handling of JTOC&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-449] - Handle instanceof and checkcast in ShortArray scalar replacer&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-477] - Gather new compiler DNA&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-501] - BuildWithAllClasses is (practically) unused&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-502] - Dead code elimination of pure calls&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-505] - Eliminate calls to VM_Class.getClass..FromStackFrame when stack frame is determinable&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-508] - Have hash map where entries are completely immutable saving references from boot image root set&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-510] - Create top level common directory to make it easier to split out and share useful components from rvm and MMTk&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-511] - Split out MMTk option processing support&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-512] - Experiment with freezing bucket array in VM_HashMap/VM_HashSet&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-513] - Large arrays in boot image cause memory leak&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-525] - Upgrade to GNU classpath 0.97.2&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-537] - Implement inline mustImplementInterface sequence for invokeinterface in baseline compilers&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-538] - Inline checkcast/instanceof sequences in baseline compiler for simple cases&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-572] - Remove OSR&amp;#95; and BC&amp;#95; prefixes from OnStackReplacement code&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-593] - Extra checks on references being traced in rvm&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-603] - Improve intel baseline prologue/epilogue/call by use push/pop instead of mov [sp]&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-594] - Naming of MM_Interface&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;&amp;#42;&amp;#42; Bug&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-46] - CaffieneMark failures on AIX/PPC&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-47] - DaCapo regressions on AIX/PPC&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-58] - Linker errors under AIX/ppc&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-105] - sysNetSelect doesnt seem to be avoiding the syswrap select&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-187] - VM_OptGenericMapIterator: findGCMapIndex failed&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-221] - Specialized scanning broken on ppc64-aix?&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-234] - Annotation issues: not implemented via proxy classes, support for serialization&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-269] - unresolved invokeinterface on &amp;lt;null&amp;gt; should force classloading before rasiing NPE&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-271] - Timeouts for stress are not correct&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-303] - Cannot modify accessible final instance fields&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-325] - Spec JVM 98 jack failing with OOMs&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-327] - Performance degredation in IA32 assembler&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-332] - Eclipse 3.2 fails to run on the RVM&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-369] - PPC32-OSX - Crash in GC when a stack contains native frames&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-372] - Integer overflow in sysNanoTime&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-423] - Fop performance strangeness&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-442] - All poisoned tests fail PPC 32&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-454] - The sub-test TestAnnotationInheritance of the basic tests is excluded until it can be fixed&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-458] - Poisoned bit test highlights JNI problem&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-469] - Fix IA32 assembler to use Address instead of Offset for absolute addressing&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-482] - Crash when running Production_Opt0_perf portion of compiler-dna test run&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-483] - Conditionalize fsqrt generation on PowerPC&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-492] - Dumping empty stack kills VM&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-493] - VM_Annotation.readValue doesn&#039;t use the correct classloader&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-494] - Conversion between type descriptors, class names, and file names in VM_Atom behaves inconsistently&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-495] - Crash during first major GC on PPC64 tests when running with &amp;#45;X:processors=2&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-497] - New scan boot image assertion failing poisoned tests&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-499] - Overflowing JTOC during DaCapo eclipse run on PPC64 AIX&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-500] - No such field error: TreeMap$SubMap.minKey&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-504] - Increase time out on DaCapo eclipse for rvmppclnx64&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-506] - The field last in VM_HashMap and VM_HashSet is only ever set to null&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-514] - Pure on mathMagic breaks dacapo sunflow&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-521] - Freshly checked out r14346 fails to build with an uninterruptible violation&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-526] - GNU Classpath build: paths too long in check_jni.sh&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-527] - Harmony doesn&#039;t build 32bit libraries as necessary for x86_64 build&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-529] - Implement reflection API for Harmony&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-531] - Boot image stack size too small&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-541] - gc stress failures&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-542] - Incorrect encoding of inner class native method names&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-543] - Invoking JNI_OnLoad of unrelated libraries when loading a library with no JNI_OnLoad&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-544] - Class argument in NewObject ignored&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-547] - Building the boot image with the opt compiler and Harmony fails&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-550] - Implementation of isZero magic in PPC baseline compiler can overflow expression stack and corrupt stack frame&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-571] - BigDecimal Pure annotations causes crash on SPECjbb2005 for FullAdaptiveMarkSweep&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-582] - Fix all javadoc &quot;syntax&quot; errors&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-583] - Incorrect rounding on simplified integer divide&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-585] - RVM Identity HashMap doesn&#039;t use identity hashCode.. only identity.equals&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-587] - IdentityHashMaps in the bootimage&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-588] - Assertion failure in BC2IR for primitive array load&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-597] - Array index out of bounds in BC2IR generation context&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-598] - Increase use of unpreemptible&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-599] - New poisoned test failures on x86&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-608] - Object replacement ignores finalizer methods&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;&amp;#42;&amp;#42; Task and Sub-Task&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-37] - Doccument the command line options&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-42] - Build/Test infrastructiure to compute compiler DNA&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-490] - Null Pointer Exception in gnu.xml.transform.ParameterNode.clone&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-518] - Change build logic so that the VM prefix on a class name does not control inclusion in the bootimage&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-519] - Rename classes currently with VM&amp;#95; prefix that will be confusing without it&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;[RVM-520] - Update userguide to remove VM&amp;#95; (and OPT_) prefix globally.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


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            <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:02:24 -0700</pubDate>
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            <title>GeoTools OSGeo Graduation Links</title>
            <link>http://swik.net/ActiveMQ/Blog%3A+ActiveMQ+%28ACTIVEMQ%29/GeoTools+OSGeo+Graduation+Links/cbsx5</link>
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            &lt;b&gt;added&lt;/b&gt; by
                    &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/~jive&quot;&gt;jgarnett&lt;/a&gt;
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         &lt;p&gt;As mentioned in the 2.5-M3 release anouncement yesterday - GeoTools has finally graduated from the OSGeo incubation process.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here are a couple of news links from around the web:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul class=&quot;alternate&quot; type=&quot;square&quot;&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.osgeo.org/node/747&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;osgeo.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gisdevelopment.net/news/viewn.asp?id=GIS:N_sqyzrgwflt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.gisdevelopment.net&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;Thanks again to everyone who helped out.&lt;/p&gt;
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            <title>PackJacket, a GUI for IzPack</title>
            <link>http://swik.net/ActiveMQ/Blog%3A+ActiveMQ+%28ACTIVEMQ%29/PackJacket%2C+a+GUI+for+IzPack/cbrsl</link>
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                    &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/~jponge&quot;&gt;Julien Ponge&lt;/a&gt;
            &lt;/p&gt;
        &lt;div style=&quot;border-top: 1px solid #ddd; border-bottom: 1px solid #ddd; padding: 10px;&quot;&gt;
         &lt;p&gt;I am pleased to forward the announcement of a new project called &lt;a href=&quot;http://packjacket.sf.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PackJacket&lt;/a&gt; which is hosted at Sourceforge and that was created by Manodasan Wignarajah and Amandeep Grewal.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://packjacket.sf.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PackJacket&lt;/a&gt; is a GUI frontend to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://izpack.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IzPack&lt;/a&gt; project. It is built with Java Swing and creates an installer for your application. The installers which are created by this program are cross-platform and multi-language. You can use the GUI to create installer fit to your needs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &lt;a href=&quot;http://packjacket.sf.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PackJacket&lt;/a&gt; project is looking for feedback as this is only their first release. &lt;a href=&quot;http://packjacket.sf.net/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;PackJacket&lt;/a&gt; is published under the terms of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;GPLv3 license&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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            <title>2.5-M3 Released</title>
            <link>http://swik.net/ActiveMQ/Blog%3A+ActiveMQ+%28ACTIVEMQ%29/2.5-M3+Released/cbq95</link>
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                    &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/~jive&quot;&gt;jgarnett&lt;/a&gt;
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         &lt;p&gt;The GeoTools 2.5-M3 milestone release is available for download:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://geotools.codehaus.org/2.5-M3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://geotools.codehaus.org/2.5-M3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;The GeoTools 2.5 series has been updated to use Java 5, and has undergone many improvements. This release is centred around making a new Feature model available. The new feature model is based on formal GeoAPI interfaces and allows the library to work complex data structures.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks to everyone who provided feedback on our new Feature model. This release contains several usability improvements based on your feedback; thanks also go out to Andrea who spent some time with a profiler to minimize the performance cost associated with this change.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are no further API chances planned for the 2.5.x series; we have started formal branch and are treating this as a stable branch. Both the GeoServer and uDig projects have successfully migrated, you should make your migration plans now; we expect a a release candidate as soon as GeoServer passes a few more CITE tests.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Features from 2.5-M3:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;OSGeo gradudation! All the headers have changed and we now track license use on a module by module basis&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Usability and Performance improvements to the Feature&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;FeatureCollection no longer implements SimpleFeature or Collection; removal associated implementation classes such as ResourceCollection&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;Features from 2.5-M2:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;JAXB bindings for the metadata module (ie support for ISO 19139 documents)&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;FeatureAccess super class for DataStore, allowing data access using ISO&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;Features from 2.5-M1:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Change over to GeoAPI SimpleFeature&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Support GetGMLObject&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Preview of new Swing Widgets (and a warm welcome to Eclesia)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;Features from 2.5-M0:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Online User Guide&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Java 5&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Improved CRSAuthorityFactory implementations available for Java Enterprise Edition users&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;ISO 19107 Geometry implementation available as a supported module&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;DB2 returns to supported status&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;ArcSDE returns to supported status&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;GeometryBuilder utility class&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;A new GPX DataStore&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;Release Notes:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10270&amp;amp;styleName=Html&amp;amp;version=14259&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10270&amp;amp;styleName=Html&amp;amp;version=14259&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;For more information please visit:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/2.5.x&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/2.5.x&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/Upgrade+to+2.5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/Upgrade+to+2.5&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;


&lt;p&gt;If you are new to GeoTools please consider this release as a good starting point, although the 2.4.x remains the stable branch we have no planned API changes and user documentation available for the 2.5.x series.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Enjoy,&lt;br/&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;0) what is up&lt;br/&gt;
1) chat&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Action Items:&lt;br/&gt;
0) 2.5-M4 tag created; to be released this week&lt;br/&gt;
1) 2.4.x to be released this week for GeoServer&lt;br/&gt;
2) 2.2.x to be released (pending one bug fix) for uDig&lt;br/&gt;
3) SE patch to arrive this week Eclesia will send email&lt;/p&gt;


&lt;p&gt;jgarnett* good morning&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I am still wonder if the meeting time is now .. or in an hour &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;vheurteaux&lt;/b&gt; hello jgarnett it&#039;s now&lt;br/&gt;
joined #geotools&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; oh okay&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Morning Eclesia, aaime etc...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; let us start the meeting&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; hi jgarnett&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (we are on holiday&#039;s here in Canada; so attendance from Refractions will be light)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; ops right it&#039;s Monday&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; agenda topics&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; aaime I feel a bit thrown around on the 2.4.x release schedule; can I ask you for an update in todays meeting?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I have no topics for the meeting, the only topic I need an update for was sent to the ml&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; looking for it ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; what was it on?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; A WHERE 1=1 ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay I can respond to that email.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, yes, that one&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; gabriel is one of the people that can test arcsde; I should also be able to run tests for you. No idea about DB2; you can start by emailing the module maintainer directly.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay well let us start with the traditional 0) what is up&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; this should be a short meeting.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Martin: metadata&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt;	jsorel : playing with xml apis&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt;	fixing bugs and plaing with the new GeoServer UI&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett - kicking off several new uDig based projects (the teams will have some exposure to this email list); wps project is wrapping up this week; looking into a gdal2gt bridge for MITAB support; hooking up the coveragetools in udig; adding some processing to imagemoasic with Emily&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett: wow&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; simboss: netcdf&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;groldan&lt;/b&gt;	geoserver 2.0 ui&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; thinking; so if so many people are doing geoserver 2.0 ui; what is left on the 1.7 train? I ask because I would like an answer for the &quot;GeoTools 2.5.0 when&quot; questions on the user list.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; next rc is not scheduled this week afaik&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; or at least not soon&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I see&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; and the blockers in 1.7.0-rc1 need Justin attention&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; well I would like to have a clue; since we kind of owe the OGC a press release&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; and it would be nice if that included some associated software.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; was anyone able to go back and tag 2.5.x ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; to reflect the release geoserver made last week?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Martin started a thread about 2.5-M3 ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; not sure, what I&#039;m sure of is that someone noted the revision&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I wasn&#039;t involved in the release process other than doing CITE tests&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; So do I ask dwins?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Basically I was just looking for a tag before to remove metadata annotations.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I was not looking for a real 2.5-M3 release.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; And I am looking to get a release in maven; for the user list.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, the release in geoserver was made by bmmpxf&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; if he did not ask anybody to tag&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; nobody did&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;groldan&lt;/b&gt; hmmm pity&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; we have the revision number, we can add the tag at any point&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; aaime if you could do so; I can release the tag today.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (and can we please try and be a bit more clear next release cycle &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt; )&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; why do you want to release the tag?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Martin does that meet your needs?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, I cannot be clear for other people, just clear for myself&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; because I care about geotools as a project; and we have users asking for the release...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay I will try and be more clear next release cycle; I thought I was working well with dwins&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; and then he said &quot;we are releasing a beta now&quot; and everything went sideways for me...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, I said bmmpxf did the release&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; he&#039;s the one doing the gs releases now&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; true; dwins was just kind enough to tell me what had happened&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; from my perspective I had set aside work and volunteer time to help get the geotools release out; and then I lost contact with who was doing what on the geoserver side.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;groldan&lt;/b&gt; mike is eating, lets wait for him to get back and I can ask him for the rev number and do the tagging&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; ie we wanted to try getting CITE tests to pass from a branch; and then we were going to release.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; cool; if someone can send me the -revision or create a tag; I can stumble through the release process today.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (I would still like to confirm that this meets martin&#039;s needs?)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, we cannot pass cite due to a number of issues that require Justin attention&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I will release this as a 2.5-M3 then.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; it meets M&#039;s needs&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; about the release of 1.6.5, I was going to do it, but Chris told me to delay it so...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; when you do get an idea let me know&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; he said mid week next week thought&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; hrm; should I bother to pass that on to the user list?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; so we could try to release 1.6.5 in a couple of days&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; (I asked last week)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; ah&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so we should make a 2.4.x release this week then?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, you can, but there&#039;s no way I have time to fix more 2.4.x bugs&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Do you need anything for that ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; apparently so&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; nothing really&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; cool.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; GeoServer 1.7.0-beta2 (July 30, 2008) ..... This release is based on Geotools 2.5.x (revision 31101).&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; thanks ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;CIA-35&lt;/b&gt; groldan * r31127 /tags/2.5-M3/: tagging 2.5.x from rev #31101&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;groldan&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett: tagged &lt;a href=&quot;http://svn.geotools.org/tags/2.5-M3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://svn.geotools.org/tags/2.5-M3&lt;/a&gt; from 2.5.x at rev #31101&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; oh darn ... I am in the same boat as everyone else &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I hate to &quot;cry wolf&quot; but we are at the stage of making press releases for uDig 1.1.0&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so chances are I need to make a 2.2.x release this week&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; we have one remaining bug fix to sort out; charset support in shapefiles.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; which has been fixed in 2.4.x I believe&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; It has; although doing some research I found that the DBF actually contains the info&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; at least I rember making sure that GEoServer could display layers in&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; norvegian, chinese and arab&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; and that info can usually be trusted, right?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; yes; that was my first thought as well. The korean uDig developers already hardcoded their locale in; I am trying to actually fix the problem so they can use the uDig 1.1.0 release.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; well I don&#039;t know how many programs use the DBF correcty; so we can still keep our connection parameter as an override.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but when i went looking I found a list of bug reports on the topic&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (users complaining that the DBF header settings were ignored)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I see&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; A couple more updates; Martin I was able to use the system properties to let uDig work with epsg-hsql.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; ah right, did you find where GeoServer sets its own?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; So hacking on referencing can return to a low priority for both of us ... not ideal but you may relax knowning I am not going to launch into the referencing codebase this week.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Thanks for the info Jody&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I did not find out; I had to look at the &quot;Axis Issue&quot; page &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt; I am not sure I got all the settings but it is enough to reduce the panic.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; It also points out that some of our Hints cannot be &quot;global&quot;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Yes, this is what Andrea said last week. I don&#039;t know why.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Or at the very least referencing has some fun issues to sort out with respect to hints.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, for the record: &lt;a href=&quot;http://svn.codehaus.org/geoserver/trunk/geoserver/web/src/main/java/org/geoserver/GeoserverInitStartupListener.java&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://svn.codehaus.org/geoserver/trunk/geoserver/web/src/main/java/org/geoserver/GeoserverInitStartupListener.java&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; we tried to use hints only but it did not work so we had to go back to system properties&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Thanks Andrea; looks like I missed a few - that is the answer I was trying to ask these last couple weeks &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; sorry, I noticed it once but it was too late, and then I forgot&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;groldan&lt;/b&gt; aaime: btw, that one does look like it should go in main, not in web?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; why, it&#039;s a startup listener&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; web container dependedent&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; martin I am pretty sure I know how to approach the bug hunt; but we can leave this until we are both more sane?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; you did not want filters in main, you want listeners now? &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/wink.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;groldan&lt;/b&gt; thought it was spring dependent&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; nope, that one has to be absoluted the very first thign that runs&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; when spring starts up it&#039;s already too late&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Jody, yes it would be fine to wait a bit. I will let peoples know when I will be back on referencing hacking?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;groldan&lt;/b&gt; ok&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Eclesia how goes your SLD work? On uDig trunk we would love to write our Style pages using StyleVisitors etc today.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; those properties must be set before any crs is requested&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Since we are writing them anyways; if we had your patch applied on 2.6.x we would not have to rewrite them later.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; well with everything going around I was wiating a bit for the patch&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I thought of updating SLDParser (the DOM one) to be an SEParser&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but noticed that we do not have a GML3 DOM parser etc...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so I figured that creating more along those lines would make me tired; and thought I should check in with what you were doing?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; I can send you the patch if that&#039;s what you mean ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Eclesia I am not interested in checking out a patch on volunteer time&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I am interested in working with you on trunk; but I don&#039;t know your timing.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; is lost&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I am just letting you know that the timing is pretty good from the uDig standpoing.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; on what do you want to work with me ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; ie if you commit we will be able to give you timely feedback on the new style interfaces.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; we will be writing code using style visitor&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (rather than set methods)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; to update stuff.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; ok so if I apply the patch this week does that suit you ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; We would like a couple days warning;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but yes; we are on trunk in order to work with you on this &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; when do you want me to apply it then ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; we have a deliverable thursday&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so either early in the week (say today?)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; or thursday.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I would not mind an overview of what your patch includes?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I am assuming the getools style interfaces will extend the geoapi ones&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; I cant today, but tomorrow I guess it&#039;s possible&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (I tried this myself and only ran into conflicts where ENUMS had been introduced)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; the patch makes the GT style interface extends the geoapi ones, and it fix the gt style implementations&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; sweet.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; all methods (old ones and new ones) are still here&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Did you wade through all my email to geoapi on the subject. We seemed to only have a few areas left to talk about.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; but the streamingrenderer breaks a bit when It comes on FeatureTypeNames that where replaced from string to Name objects&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; so there will be some fixes to do&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; understood&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; StreamingRenderer is easier to understand with the ResourceCollection stuff removed.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; so I apply tomorrow ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; will you have time to fix before thrusday ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Eclesia we have a teams of developers working on turnk&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so you should not be applying broken code?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; do you need help getting something working?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; It&#039;s not broken, test failures&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (aside: Graphic.graphicalSymbols() is order dependent ie List)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; hrm&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; I cant fix the streaming renderer&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay understood; so yeah send me an email before you commit and we can tag team that one.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Is there a time when we are both working?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; for me it&#039;s at the end of the day&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay so when you are ready please send an email; and set a time&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; 17H to 18H&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I think that is it for the meeting time slot.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Anything else or should I post the logs.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett: a solution would be taht I send you the patch, and you can commit it when you think the streamingRenderer is fixed ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; this way you can do it when you wish and we wont break the build&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I hear you&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I am weighing my volunteer time today vs you interecting with the geotools community in the normal manner.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Is there another way to help you debug streaming renderer?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; And is your patch current; ie streaming renderer has changed over the last two weeks.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; nope I think you better set a time and commit&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;ve been maitaining this patch for more then a month on my free time ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I don&#039;t want to set a precedent of accepting large patches; not when you have commit access.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; what I can do is help you clean up streaming renderer; and we do appoogize for taking so long to get 2.5.x out of the way ... thanks for maintaining the patch.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; So what time do you want to do this Eclesia; tomorrow?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Now?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; I cant do it know&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; the patch is at work (I&#039;m at home)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; now*&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; How about tomorrow? You mentioned a time up above; but I have not figured out when that is for me &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/sad.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; meeting startes a 18H, so one hour before&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; what time is it for you right now jody?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; its 19:42 here&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; so 17:00 is 2:42 ago&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; 17h to 18h is fine&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay sounds great&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; can you send an email; with that time slot; and the appropriate dire warning for people working on turnk.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; tunk - silly typo&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Is that okay?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; ok&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; cool thanks for the meeting everyone.&lt;/p&gt;
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         &lt;p&gt;Our developer Dan Tran has just released the &lt;a href=&quot;http://izpack.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IzPack&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://maven.apache.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Maven&lt;/a&gt; Plugin version 1.0-alpha-1.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The plugin allows users to build their installers using IzPack, the Maven way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The plugin is available from Maven Central at &lt;a href=&quot;http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/codehaus/izpack&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/codehaus/izpack&lt;/a&gt; while the plugin site is hosted at &lt;a href=&quot;http://izpack.codehaus.org/izpack-maven-plugin&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://izpack.codehaus.org/izpack-maven-plugin&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

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         &lt;p&gt;The GeoAPI 2.2-M1 milestone release has been deployed to our maven repository.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This tag contains some interesting work:&lt;/p&gt;
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	&lt;li&gt;Initial round of org.opengis.style interfaces based on the latest OGC and ISO portrayal specifications&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Some feedback on our new feature model after several months testing
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		&lt;li&gt;Feature now has a getIdentifier() method allowing access to the same FeatureId used by the org.opengis.filter package.&lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;use of getDescriptor methods (rather than getAttribute methods) for ComplexAttribute&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Thanks to everyone who helped out and provided feedback.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Agenda topics:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;SE 1.1 and SLD 1.1 chat&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Wwhat is up&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;2.5.x branch&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; desruisseuax ping? I was wondering if you had any thoughts about epsg-hsql use?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Hello Jody&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I don&#039;t know why it doesn&#039;t find it. I was hopping to produce a dump of registered factories, but I&#039;m unable to remember where is the program doing that.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; We had a JIRA task for that with screenshot and usage instructions... I searched for it half-an-hour and didn&#039;t found it.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I placed it in the geotools user guide&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I can make a dump of the factories for you.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (and can send that on to email)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; however I think the design of the factory lookup / hints is incorrect.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; ie global hints are interferring with your ability to look up the epsg-hsql authority; so you never find it in order to wrap it ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; here is the tool&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC/1+Referencing+Configuration+and+Tool&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC/1+Referencing+Configuration+and+Tool&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; hi&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; morning&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; we should start the meeting?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; floor open to agenda topics...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; martin I am sad about the referencing stuff; I don&#039;t feel I have enough information to use up meeting time talking about it.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; You have been much better than me for finding back the informations Jody &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;. It was not far finally.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Could you send me a screenshot of the factories tree please? And also a list of all global hints&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; (there is a tools for dumping global hints as well - trying to remember...)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I think a copy and paste of System.out.println(GeoTools.getGlobalHints()) should be okay.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay I will take that to email (since I don&#039;t have enough information to talk about it during the meeting; you did get my earlier emails so you know that global hints are breaking the referencing module)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I can make a bug report for that and we can track progress there.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; emily / Eclesia did you want to grab an agenda topic to talk about SLDParser and/or SE 1.1 ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I was also going to ask gabriel / dwins about the release train&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; I still have no answer for SLD interface in geoapi so I can&#039;t really say&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; dwins your code freeze email looked like it was held up in a moderation queue for a while? Hopefully you can clarify this meeting?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I am not sure I understand &quot;no answer for SLD interfaces&quot; in geoapi? what do you mean ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; For me it&#039;s first geoAPI then GeoTools&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; well both have to happen at once; they feed into each other ... I did give you a very solid code review last week&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (using the geotools implementation to find questions about the geoapi interfaces)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;dwins	doesn&#039;t remember sending an email that got held up in a moderation queue&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I was supposed to be monitoring the email list while gabriel was away; I let one of your email messages loose over the weekend&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; (I&#039;m just making the secretary work to build up the interfaces of OGC SLD in geoapi, I also have a look at GT sld class to see what could go wrong)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay I understand now; I just read your email on the geoapi list. Thus far you have done Symbology Encoding 1.1 I guess? And now you are looking at the SLD 1.1 interfaces?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; yes&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; and they are done&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; got it; so you have the SLD 1.1 interfaces available for geoapi; and you would like to commit them for review etc. That sounds okay; but I can reply to your email ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; did you want to grab an agenda topic to talk about a) your plans for 2.6.x and b) SLDParser stuff with Emily?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; I just want to know if someone at refraction is going to make an SLD1.1 parser, I seen you work on styles and sld&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Eclesia we cannot make an SLD 1.1 parser until there is code (and a renderer to make use of it).&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; We have no paid work in hand that requires SLD 1.1&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (indeed for udig we would probably just stick to the SE 1.1 work; SLD is more of interest to #geoserver developers&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; ok so I dont any agenda item ^^&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; that said we know the DOM based SLDParser&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; and we need to know your plans for supporting SE 1.1 and SLD 1.1&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (ie this is planning; we don&#039;t do work you need for free; and we also don&#039;t start work without talking to you first ...)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; for SE1.1 GT is going to have a patch in 2.6.x&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; cool&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; and for SLD1.1 I still dont know what will be in GT&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; GeoServer people has no sponsoring on using SE 1.1 and SLD 1.1 either, actually we don&#039;t implement any WMS standard that could use them&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; well to put anything into geotools we got to keep the big picture in mind&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so someone better have plans for a parser&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (or we are not taking good care of the library)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I do agree that SLD 1.1 is pretty useless...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (note we have now talked about this so much we should of grabbed an agenda item)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; aaime does #geoserver have any plans for SE 1.1 or SLD 1.1 ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; there&#039;s no t enormous difference with SLD1.0 now that we have SE1.1&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; none&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; no one ever requested we support it&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; and wms 1.1.1 is based on sld 1.0&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; what is based on sld 1.1 ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; WMS 1.3 or something?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; maybe wms 1.3, but I actually never seen that citation&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Eclesia I am interested in SE 1.1 for uDig.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Based on review I don&#039;t think updating the SLDParser would be that bad&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; streaming can handle Se1.1 ?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so when you get there please talk to us and perhaps we can collaborate.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; of course not&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; or can it?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; the SLDParser is dom based; the GTXML (ie streaming parser) only has binding for SLD 1.0.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; I dont now, perhaps just like me, there is a patch waiting somewhere ^^&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I think everyone has their cards on the table; SE 1.1 is new work.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; Eclesia, did you update SLDStyleFactory to handle the extra features se 1.1 has?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; and we either need enthusiasm (or a customer) to get it done.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt; aaime: no&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; also, classification functions should be supported directly in the renderer&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; so it&#039;s quite fair to say streaming renderer does not support se 1.1&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; and won&#039;t unless somee udig folk updates it in that direction&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; or GeoServer gets some sponsoring to work on SLD 1.1/SE 1.1&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; well I will start slow by making use of the classification functions (which can be represented in SLD 1.0)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; still it is good to see this stuff moving; perhaps we can go shopping for a sponsor on this topic.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; shall we move on ... with the agenda and meeting?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; 1) what is up&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;aaime	is fixing geoserver bugs for the 1.7.0-... rc1/beta2 (still haven&#039;t decided) release&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Eclesia	JSorel : working on GeoAPI SLD&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett - despairing over epsg-hsql and wondering how geoserver manages to render anything (perhaps someone can help me after the meeting?)&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;aaime	is also mail drunk after reading 1100 mails in roughly one day&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, GeoServer gave up using Hints because they don&#039;t work, we opened a jira issue and got back using System.setProperty&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; ugly, but so far the only working solution&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; thanks for the insight aaime; I am going to go freak out and break a lot of referencing in the process is my guess&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (sigh)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; simboss - jpeg2000, jpip and python&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;tar1&lt;/b&gt; tara - lurking&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-1704&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-1704&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; (for jgarnett information)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jdeolive, we&#039;re in the &quot;what&#039;s up&quot; phase of the gt2 meeting&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; want to join? &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;dwins	having fun with wicket and fixing a gs bug or two&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; moving on ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; 2) 2.5.x branch&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Andrea, could you remind me the JIRA issue please?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; dwins without gabriel here this one is mostly you ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; desriusseaux, the jira issue it the one I pasted above&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt; okay&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; I wanted to get unsupported gt-wps and gt-process into this branch. dwins, how do I sort that out?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; it contains a small &quot;main&quot; that can be used to reproduce the issue&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt; as far as I know everything is in place&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Oups! Thanls Andrea&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; np &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt; gdavis_: good question. i&#039;m not sure of the geotools policy for changing the &#039;unsupported&#039; status of a module&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett: care to enlighten us?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; gdavis knows this one; it amounts to a page of docs and 40% test coverage.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, that is to get the module to supported land&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; desruisseaux can point you towards a report of coverage; not sure if it covers unsupported modules however?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; he wants to keep it in 2.5.x as unsuported no?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; good question - gdavis what is your intention?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; desruisseaux, how do I get test coverage of my unsupported modules?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; afaik the branching process will just keep it around, unless someone removes it manually&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; well are unsupported modules going to be in the 2.5 branch?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt; aaime++&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; well I want us to remove a lot of the unsupported modules; at the very least anything without a review.apt file...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but stronger than that ... anything geoserver is not going to use.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; review.txt file you mean?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; nope, apt&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; (almost plain text)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; well we have the wps geoserver module as well, which we&#039;d like to get in 1.7&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; gdavis_ they changed it in order to generate a &quot;maven site&quot;; no idea what apt stands for - looks similar to a wiki format.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; i havent updated GT in a few days, was that a recent change? All mine still seem to say review.txt&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; About coverage: I do not yet have a coverage report for unsupported module. We had difficulty getting clover to run on GT trunk. We tried cobertura instead in a repository containing simplified pom.xml, but it doesn&#039;t cover unsupported modules yet.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; so how does an unsupported module get test coverage in order to become supported then?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; so jgarnett, this is your idea, to remove unsupporetd modules from 2.5.x... it&#039;s the first time I hear about that&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; aaime I have talked about this from the definition of the unsupported module idea / we are only hosting stuff to help get new developers. The actual library is defined by what meets our QA and Doc requirements.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Every other time we talk about this you mention unsupported/oracle and assume I am losing my mind.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (ie nobody supports oracle; but we need it; so jody must not be serious about removing unsupported modules from the release train)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; gdavis_, go to your module and type &quot;mvn cobertura:cobertura&quot;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, more or less correct, and how do we get out of that impasse?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I think we start by removing everything geoserver is not using.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I mean, we&#039;re talking about library procedures here&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; and move the stuff we are using &lt;b&gt;into&lt;/b&gt; the library.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (by meeting the doc and testing requirements)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; ok, what does this do?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, but oracle has no maintainer, so it cannot get into the library&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; gdavis_, it generates a report, look into target/site&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; well andrea we may be at a cross roads of either a) asking a sponsor to support a maintainer for oracle (refractions has at least one interested - but it will take dropping oracle from geoserver to show this is a serious requirement)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; b) recognizing that once something is in the library the community takes responsibility for keeping it going&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (at which point 40% test coverage and a page of docs looks like too small a bar to jump over)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; oracle is in limbo right now - no questions about that.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; we&#039;re going into a direction where I cannot talk about the issue intellligently. It involves providing resource, and I&#039;m not the one controlling them&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; cholmes can say if TOPP is going to maintain Oracle or not, and if it&#039;s ok to drop it completely, I cannot&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; does the idea of removing unsupported modules that are not used by geoserver seem like a good compromise?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; sort of... I mean, what about modules used by udig but not geoserver?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; ie it has no effect on your release; and it provides insentive for people to &lt;b&gt;finish&lt;/b&gt; their module.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; same deal&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; if udig is keeping something in the build (like say the graph module)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; we can make sure it is passing tests on the branch.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but udig is not following you on the 2.5.x branch (we could not get our feature event work done in time and referencing did not meet our requirements)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so the 2.5.x branch is mostly about you &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/sad.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;CIA-35&lt;/b&gt; gdavis * r31086 /trunk/modules/unsupported/wps/src/test/java/org/geotools/data/wps/ (OnlineWPSFactoryTest.java OnlineWPSManualRequestTest.java): Turning online tests on for covertura&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;CIA-35&lt;/b&gt; gdavis * r31087 /trunk/modules/unsupported/wps/src/test/java/org/geotools/data/wps/ (OnlineWPSFactoryTest.java OnlineWPSManualRequestTest.java): Turning online tests back off.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; well ok, I&#039;m not exactly happy about this, but I don&#039;t see alternate routes&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; thinking&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; andrea what is there not to be happy about? You don&#039;t need widgets-swing-pending do you?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (this is just a question - I am not sure if I understand your concern)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;m not exactly happy that modules do appear and disappear from the library depending on which project uses the branch&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; these reports all show 0% when I know that can&#039;t be true....&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; you are correct; I am not happy that modules that projects depend on are not meeting our very low QA bar; I figure that is irresponsible ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but the same token I don&#039;t want to advertise modules that we know are in flux (ie the definition of an unsupported module)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; unsupported is only there to bootstrap quick development; the library slurps up the good ideas (and hopefully grows our developer community in the process)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; it still seems me we should advertise this on the users community before pulling the plug&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Perhaps we should return to the details of making a release this week ... I am sorry the handling of unsupported was a surprise Andrea.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; it&#039;s quite rushed for a branch that we should do this week&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay I can do that; ask them what they think.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; like for example Camp2Camp is using MIF, we just pissed them off enough with the licensing questions that they stopped mailing us&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; (questions -&amp;gt; requirements)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; andrea I would settle for deploying to maven but not making it part of the download. See the language on this page for my intension with unsupported modules: &lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC/16+Unsupported&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTDOC/16+Unsupported&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I would like to make a separate zip instead&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; aaime++ that would work.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; so, can process and wps still reach supported status for this release?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; so that peopole can still use them, but would understand they should get they act togheter and support themselves&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; gdavis_, dunno, I tried cobertura on various modules and the coverage I get is not 0&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; you can also try out with the cobertura eclipse plugin, you might have better luck&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;INFO&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;surefire:test&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;error&quot;&gt;&amp;#91;INFO&amp;#93;&lt;/span&gt; Tests are skipped.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; it says this&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; gdavis_, can we talk about this later?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; I guess so&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; it&#039;s problem solving, not something we should do during a meeting&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; especially since it&#039;s supposed to end in 7 minutes&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, anything else that is holding up the 2.5.x branch?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;gdavis_&lt;/b&gt; alright&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; (I was actually quite surprised by the rush of last minute api change proposals and actions, feature collection, feature id...this kind of stuff should be hanlded at the beginning on a development cycle, not at the end)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; aaime: I have something to say about the 2.5.x branch&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; aaime I was surprised as well; a lot of this work was started and nto completed&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; aaime I also did not do the deprecation cycle this release.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; feature collection and feature id are weren&#039;t started at all&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; you know when we go through 2.4.x and remove deprecated methods.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; feature collection was started as part of the feature model change over; but it lost momentum.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; In trying to use this in a training environment I figured I could not stand to let it out the door with so many half finished ideas; I hope you don&#039;t mind.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;ve only seen proposal drafts for Justin, no coding was started&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I did not notice any significant change before your work of last week&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I do mind when these things are done last minute, since we&#039;re touching some fundamental class&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; that would be better modified when a new trunk starts being worked on&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I kind of thought justin would get to it before release.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; how could you think that, we did not even vote the proposal??&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; And I was hoping to do the featureid work with you but did not figure it out in time before you left on vacation.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; that one fell on me like a surprise as well, it&#039;s another major change that should not occur right before branching&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I could think that because we focused on the change over to simple feature during September; and we did the bare minimum to make the change. Other things that we knew were wrong (like featurecollection being a feature) were not attempted at that time.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I have been talking to gabriel about the FeatureId handling as part of the feature event work for months; but perhaps because it was feature events it was not visible as a concern?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, I&#039;m not questioning the goodness of the changes&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;m questioning the timing&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; But I agree too much was done last minuet; and too much was done by me at the last minuet.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I don&#039;t know if I should of been more strict months ago or what.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; however I &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; like the result.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;CIA-35&lt;/b&gt; gdavis * r31088 /trunk/modules/unsupported/wps/src/main/java/org/geotools/data/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Adding package infos for these packages.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; ok...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; so, let&#039;s recap a bit&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; how are we setup for the 2.5.x branching?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; what still needs to be done?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; we await a decision from dwins / gabriel&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; then we tag&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; we have to rollback referencing&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; and I want to review the user guide and bundle it up for download.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (we also need to tag a geoapi milestone but we can limit that to a maven deploy)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; ha great, we tested geoserver for months with the current referencing and now we roll back... this 1.7.x relelase will be a damned one I guess...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; well we can ask martin&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but he did not get to the work right now?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I think all that happens aaime is we remove my classes (that are still not hooked up)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; ah, not hooked up you say... so we haven&#039;t been using them at all&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; guys I have two minor fixes for imagemosaic, I have made tests run for both geoserver and geotools successfully; question is can I commit?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; correct&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; simboss, sure you can&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; the work I did for so long has not been hooked up yet because I cannot pass one test case about looking up an existing identifier.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so rolling back (or deleting these classes) should not be too stressful.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I guess it will just be deleting the classes, since desriusseaux has been making changes/fixes to referencing on trunk afaik&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; agreed&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I think martin said he could help on that side; he feels bad about not getting time to work on referencing.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; and leaving me hanging.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;CIA-35&lt;/b&gt; simboss * r31089 /trunk/modules/plugin/ (4 files in 2 dirs):&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;CIA-35&lt;/b&gt; - releaseing resource for ImageMoisacReader&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;CIA-35&lt;/b&gt; - using some good old suppressWarnings tag&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; ok, and we need to change the release scripts to create a separate zip for the unsupported modules... something I never managed to figure out how to do&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Eclesia	can wait 2 more weeks if it helps&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Eclesia I don&#039;t think it will help; only thing we should do that we are not is removing deprecated methods.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, that is going to be a big one, and not possible at all in various cases&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; think filters&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; you simply cannot remove the deprecated filters&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I know&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; there is still code using them&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (it is one of the things listed on technical debt on the 2.5.x page)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but I suspect there is some work we could do; but it was not as important as making our Java 5 transition and getting our Feature / FeatureCollection story straight.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; ok, who does what and when?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; dwins / gabriel was going to make the branch today&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I was going to review the user guide pages&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I think martin was going to rollback the referencing module?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I was going to help gabriel by running deploy from here.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I haven&#039;t seen groldan around today&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt; and I don&#039;t have write access to the repository&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; dwins was mostly organizing; gabriel just had the ability to do the work.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I was hoping for code freeze / branch / unfreeze and then starting up the release process from the branch; releasing when CITE tests pass?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; yep&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; thought if the FeatureId change is still in the air, we cannot release gt2 2.5-rc&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; can we wrap up the meeting; and leave the IRC log open for collaboration on the 2.5.x release ...&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;aaime	is at the end of his working day almost right now&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; if gdavis and simboss are happy we could branch 2.5.x fairly quickly. And worry about making the release from the branch tomorrow ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I just committed&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; so yeah&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I just tested&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; so we give up with FeatureId related changes?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; that the fix&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; for the coverage bandselect problem&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; worked&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; (that&#039;s an API and GeoAPI change)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; and it worked indeed&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt; simboss: thanks a lot&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; simboss, thanks&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; FeatureID changes were done on the weekend Andrea; they went well.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; or actually late last week.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; Uh?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I talked with gabriel after you left; and Justin.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I did not even notice&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; any page documenting how things are working vs pending ids?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; the FeatureEvent page&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but now you have the option of getting the FeatureIds from the features&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; rather than only from events.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; dwins, aaime: If I were you I would double check anyway &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; what about featureStore.add(..)?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; dwins made the change on the geoserver side.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; now returns a List&amp;lt;FeatureId&amp;gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so you can build up your list ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; and they do change after commit occurs?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; yes.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I see&lt;br/&gt;
*--|	tar1 has left #geotools&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; any way to know the feature id is &quot;transient&quot;?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; (pending, whatever)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but that is only as good as the datastore implementation as per usual.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; no there is not&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I see&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; could have been useful&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; you could add that to the FeatureIdImpl if you want; I would like to see some experimentation on that side.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; note versioned postgis was the only thing&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; to want to set the feature id more than once.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I wanted to ask you why that was ...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I don&#039;t know&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I coded that datastore more than one year ago&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I simply do not remember why&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I suspect it is so you can include &quot;feature id&quot; and &quot;version&quot; as part of the Identifier?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but dwins only found tests that failed in #geoserver so I could not verify.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; it probably has something to do with the intricacies of having a feature id mapping between an inner and an external view&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, externally the id stays the same&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt; it looks like you generate a temporary id immediately after getting the feature from the writer&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; version is not part of the feature id the users sees, but internally yes, it&#039;s part of the id&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt; and then I guess you do something with it to generate a final id for versioning&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I see.. don&#039;t know, I would need to check the code&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay so perhaps a change of api class can do it .. generate the &quot;fid&quot;; use it to construct the FeatureId; and then you can still set it once when you have your final value...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (I just had a check to freak out if a FeatureId was being changed multiple times; and we had to turn it off for your module)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; so now it&#039;s not part of the build?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; yes&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; you should have sent me a mail saying so?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I did?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I did not see it&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; reading&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; (mind, 1100 mails dropped in my mail client yesterday)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (gasp I may of been evil like dwins and just had a conversation on IRC and not sense an email... the horror)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;ve only seen this, but could not make any sense of it: &lt;a href=&quot;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-1934&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOT-1934&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;CIA-35&lt;/b&gt; simboss * r31090 /trunk/modules/unsupported/coveragetools/src/main/java/org/geotools/utils/imagepyramid/PyramidLayerBuilder.java: -minor fix as directed by Thomas Lutz&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; also the jira says it&#039;s fixed, if so, the module should be brought back into the build&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; that is true; it was done after the change.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; it never left the build; it was always passing its geotools test cases.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; you are correct andrea; I sent email and closed bugs on the geoapi list.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I will correct that now.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; k&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; dwins, jgarnett, I have to go in a few minutes and I still have some pending commits&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;aaime&lt;/b&gt; can you send me a mail telling me if I should a) branch b) run the cite tests?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt; sure&lt;/li&gt;
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         &lt;p&gt;The Groovy Eclipse team released an updated version of the Groovy Eclipse plugin.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this new release, the main points of interest:&lt;/p&gt;
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	&lt;li&gt;the plugin has been updated to use Groovy 1.5.6&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;and it is also working with the recent Eclipse 3.4&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;You can find the Groovy Eclipse plugin as a &lt;a href=&quot;http://dist.codehaus.org/groovy/distributions/update/GroovyEclipse.zip&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Zip file here&lt;/a&gt; and you can point your Eclipse update center at the following location:&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://dist.groovy.codehaus.org/distributions/update/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://dist.groovy.codehaus.org/distributions/update/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Upcoming version of the plugin will feature the first refactorings (extract method). You can &lt;a href=&quot;http://sifsstud4.hsr.ch/trac/GroovyRefactoring&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discover more on the topic&lt;/a&gt; thanks to the students working on&lt;br/&gt;
this project as part of their Bachelor thesis at University of applied sciences, in Rapperswil, Switzerland.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, don&#039;t forget to read Groovy plugin developer &lt;a href=&quot;http://iacobus.blogspot.com/2008/07/roadmap-for-groovy-eclipse-work.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;James Ervin&#039;s words on the roadmap&lt;/a&gt; of the plugin.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Congratulations to everybody involved, and especially to James who pushed hard for this release&amp;#33;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Agenda:&lt;br/&gt;
0) chat&lt;br/&gt;
1) what is up&lt;br/&gt;
2) follow up OSGeo &lt;br/&gt;
3) gridrange/gridenvelope&lt;/p&gt;


&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I just remembered the new meeting time&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (hard to both deal with monday morning questions; and attend a meeting .. sorry for being late)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; No worry, nothing started&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; hrm&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay sending email to the list now&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I don&#039;t have any agenda topic for today...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I noticed unsupported/go was removed?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Is this a formal cancellation of the go-1 project?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; well we have some follow up to do from last week&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; No it is not a cancelation&lt;br/&gt;
graduation&quot;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Martin should I be doing something on this end? I feel like communication on has been poor recently?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;m don&#039;t know if the issue is communication&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; This is true that we are not communicating as much as we could&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; And some of our comunication may be poor&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; When I have a strong opinion on a topic, I look like close minded&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; But while the community see the weakness as a communication issue from geomatys, on our side we are worried by the entropy of managing many project around the geotools code base.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; thinking&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; the entropy?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I would add a question about gridrange/gridenvelope to the topic list&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; martin my thought is that we have these procedures and the PMC to account for the entropy.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; ie If a project wants to take part it can provide volunteers to geotools to handle the communication burden.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; martin I don&#039;t mind you appearing closed minded; indeed I value a good discussion with you - it results in high quality software (and we both learn from the discussion)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I can think of a dozen examples &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; My only concern is when people arrive &quot;too late&quot; to discuss stuff; ie when they actually have no time - and I think we try to be understanding about that.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Is that what you meant by entropy?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I was thinking something a bit different&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; We started to cleanup metadata&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; fixing javadoc, splitting utilities methods in their own &quot;utility&quot; module&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; No design changes at this time&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Then I have it Justin&#039;s converter classes in org.geotools.util&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; (typo: I have hit)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; ah&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Those classes duplicates org.geotools.resources.ClassChanger, but Justin framework is more elaborated.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I have not heard of class changer; I considered it a duplicate of the apache bean utils.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Nevertheless we have a duplication, so I wanted to retrofit the old ClassChanger functionality in Justin converters&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; sounds great; I appologize if we knew about ClassChanger at the time we would of used it.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; This kind of duplication is kind of the entropy I&#039;m talking about&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; No it is not an issue - I do not expect peoples to known every bit that everyone write&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; true&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; thinking&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; This was just before the change proposal process; do you think a change proposal (to introduce Converters) would of been enough&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; So it was part of entropy. Other part is that Justin converter were wrote in main module instead than metadata, but both defines classes in the same package (org.geotools.util)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; visibility&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; that we could avoid the duplication?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; No I don&#039;t think that a proposal would have helped much (more on it later)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (thinking of this as a) technical thing to fix b) a process thing we could think about)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay keep going; I will shut up &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; So entropy = duplication, service duplicated in many module (in this case &quot;utility&quot; splitted between metadata and main; and furthermore &quot;metadata&quot; is probably a bad place for &quot;utility&quot;)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Also implementation thats look like &quot;brute force&quot; (looping over every converter until one is found that doesn&#039;t returns null and doesn&#039;t throw exception)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I understand that a lot of things in GeoTools have been developped under time constraint.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; This is where I think that the proposal process doesn&#039;t help a lot, because we often don&#039;t have the time to look at them carefully.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; We end up trusting the guy who proposed it, and only later we realize that we could have fighted more against entropy.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; so far we average one proposal a month; and have two weeks to respond.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I am trying to be &quot;brutal&quot; in getting people to document what they are doing in the proposal; so it takes less time for everyone to review.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but I agree duplication is bad; proposal process may not catch everything.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; stronger measures (like code reviews) would take even more time.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; suggestions?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Is having a two week chance to review a proposal &quot;good enough&quot; for you martin?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; It is not only duplication; when I look at a code written by someone else, I often see stuff that I doesn&#039;t make me happy (&quot;brute force&quot; algorithms, eating exception in try .. catch ... log, bad usage of J2SE API...). It may be because I&#039;m too maniac, but it make me worry&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; martin: I agree - when out of time I tend to work on trust; I have stopped doing that in the last year and am &quot;up front&quot; when I am out of time and vote +0&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; see this is why I like working with you; your worry is valuable to everyone &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; is there any way we can address the kind of issues you mention above?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; But this is where I came to an idea which I&#039;m afraid would not be acceptable to the community&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I personally go in and fix stuff; and send email to the module maintainer as I go.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but it is to little to be effective.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I would rather set &quot;find bugz&quot; and use it to inpersonally catch mistakes like these. It works well for udig.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I got the feeling that GeoTools needs a &quot;benevolant dictactor&quot; in the way Linus is for Linux. I know that it is a radical point of view, but I have the feeling that the survival of the project as the &quot;project of my dream&quot; would need that.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; But peoples can not be blocked because I dictator is too slow, or disagree, etc.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; So this is clearly unacceptable on a centralized SVN.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; But on a distributed system...?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;dwins&lt;/b&gt;	waves&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Hrm; I don&#039;t mind taking the roll.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I am trying to work hard on geotools because it needs it.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; If peoples are unhappy about a dictator on a given system, then can switch to an other distributed system managed in a different way.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; but I was going to take stock of what was needed for GeoTools 3; a dictator may be a good idea.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; not sure that works as a dictator; that is a democracy&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; and personally I don&#039;t always trust the will of the masses on code decisions.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Thats my current though&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; cool&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; let us put it in the list for GeoTools 3&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; now with OSGeo graduation out of the way&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; dcvs solves the same problem in a more elegant way&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I promissed I would start taking action on those ideas.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; dvcs&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; how so acuster&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; everyone is dictoator over their repo&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; they can decide what goes in&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; the cost is everyone has to decide what goes it&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; goes in&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (BTW acuster I had some usless naming questions for you - which would be very valuable for me; and prevent your annoyance in the future)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; which is why there are so many branches of linux&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I am not sure that this is an efficient approach; but yeah I get the idea.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett, yes, on my todo list, you need answers today?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;m done. I suggest to move on next IRC topic.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; acuster - if possible. I just want some words (we can chat on #udig)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay ... thanks for the chat guys&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; 1) what is up&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; jgarnett - trying to make sure the feature collection change did not break geoserver - dwins seems to have it all in hand. Working on bundling up a JRE+ImageIO-ext for udig development community. Juggling work responsibilities with open source commitments.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; acuster---iso19107 is messier than they would have you believe: I now have a working understanding of how geographic curves are expected to behave&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; (well, that&#039;s a lie but a first approximation)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Eclesia&lt;/b&gt;	hasck in puzzle-gis, and playing with JaxB&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Martin: code review&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; simone: ebrim&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; acuster there was a good question on the JTS list as someone runs into some of the same questions (something about splitting a curve into a multi curve)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; oh; lucky simboss &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; anyone else?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;acuster&lt;/b&gt; yeah, that&#039;s in my inbox as a todo&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; 2) follow up to OSGeo graduation&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; It looks like we were successful; no official announcement yet.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; we have a couple blocker issues about license management to close up before the 2.5.x release.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Firstly thanks &lt;b&gt;so much&lt;/b&gt; for all the crazy hard work on this stuff.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; It has been long, brutal, and so on.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Thanks Jody, you worked hard on that too&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Hopefully over the next year we can benefit from this relationship on the &quot;product&quot; side of things; it sounds like we make do a few infrastructure things first (maven repository? etc...)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; (the other one being Adrian)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; well thanks for keeping me sane. I know without acuster I would of slowed down on this stuff.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Last week I was nominated as osgeo representative; as such I may get a few official questions&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I will punt each one of these to the geotools admin list; unless they are really really easy.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; And if you guys have questions about OSGeo; or if we have stuff we want to get done&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I can try and hunt down the right people.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; Does anyone have ideas for this week? Or can we relax for a bit and take this to email..&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I have no additional item&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; 3) gridrange/ gridenvelope&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; simboss the floor is yours.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; thought/question for martin&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; about the difference&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; between what geotools does&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; and what JAI does&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; when cropping images&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I saw email about cropping, but didn&#039;t investigated them.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I have been sparing some time today to think about it&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; even because I notice a while ago&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; that you pushed the use of mosaic inside&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; the resampler&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; but that&#039;s another story....&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; anyway&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; It is not a real mosaic&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; It doesn&#039;t take more than one image&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; mosaic operator&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Yes I know, but mosaic operator with a single image&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; (so it is not a real mosaic)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I know &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; The mosaic operator handle the border outside the image in a special way&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; if you ever looked at the crop operation&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I used it to crop rotated raster&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; This is the border handling that was interresting me, not the mosaic per se&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; that is why I mention that&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; (sorry, lets continue on crop)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; but anyway if I crop an image&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; with the JAI crop&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I always get the smallest rectangle that contains the requested area&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; the behvaiour in geotools is slightly ifferent&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; and can cause illegalargument exception&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; if you try to cut a very small portion out of a coverage&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I think I managed to reproduce the same thing for resample as well&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;hudson&lt;/b&gt; geoserver-1.7.x build fixed (&lt;a href=&quot;http://gridlock.openplans.org:8080/hudson/job/geoserver-1.7.x/54/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://gridlock.openplans.org:8080/hudson/job/geoserver-1.7.x/54/&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I think I could fix that for the Crop operation&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; but I would like to have consistency with resample&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; because probably sooner or later we could merge the two things into one, probably with a simplified interface for crop, reproject, resample, etc...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; yes&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; now the question is&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; have you ever run into such a case?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; final annotation&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; the sources of problems are 2&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; generalgrid range roundings and usage of imagelayout&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; done&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; I don&#039;t remember having seen that, but if you have a test case reproducing the issue that would be very appreciated.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; well, the idea is simple&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I get an envelope&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; which is smaller than a unit in world coordinate&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I go back to raster coordinate&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; w and h&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; will be between 0 and 1&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; exlusive&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; if I ever use imagelayou&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; or the gridrange constructor&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; you&#039;ll get w and/or h as 0&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;you might&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I think in this cases it would be better to have a behavior similar to the JAI behaviour&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; If the fix is just ensuring that width and height are always equals and greater than 1, I&#039;m in favor of that.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; (back: was grabbed for a conversation)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Or do you think something more elaborated is needed?&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I still have to think a little bit about it, I&#039;ll try to capture thoughts in an email&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; on a side&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I think we need to ensure&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; that when we crop a coverage&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; we always return something&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; even if that &lt;b&gt;something&lt;/b&gt; is bigger than the requested area&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; e.g. 1X1 raster&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; on the other side&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; the generalgridrange constructor&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; states the opposite&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; if you recall it&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; (hello? &lt;img class=&quot;emoticon&quot; src=&quot;/images/icons/emoticons/smile.gif&quot; height=&quot;20&quot; width=&quot;20&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;/&gt; )&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; yes&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; (I need to look back what GeneralGridRange constructor said)&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; so we might need to change that as well&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; k&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; anyway, i&#039;ll wrap that in an email&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; since it might require some thinking&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; I am done&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;desruisseaux&lt;/b&gt; Nothing more on my side...&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; okay thanks guys&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;jgarnett&lt;/b&gt; I can post the logs.&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; right on time&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;b&gt;simboss&lt;/b&gt; :-9&lt;/p&gt;
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