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openSUSE News: Join the openSUSE Proofreading Team

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:22:28 -0700

We are about to establish a new openSUSE team - the Proofreading Team. This team wants to check new software strings before translator will start there work. If you are interested in improving program messages and have a good knowledge in (American) English, feel free to join this team!

For more information, look here or send Karl an email to ke at suse dot de

Gabriel Burt: Banshee 1.2.1 Planned for Tuesday

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:22:28 -0700

We're planning a Banshee 1.2.1 release for next Tuesday, primarily to ship updated translations. We have quite a few languages with good coverage, but it could be a lot better. Translators, please make sure Banshee is available in your language!

X11:xfce - openSUSE

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:14:41 -0700

openSUSE News: Join the openSUSE proofreading team

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:14:34 -0700

We are about to establish a new openSUSE team - the Proofreading Team.
This team wants to check new software strings before translator will start there work. If you are interested in improving program messages and have a good knowledge in (American) English, feel free to join this team!

For more information, look here or send Karl an email to ke at suse dot de

openSUSE News: Report from the YaST Workshop

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:13:47 -0700

The YaST teams met in Nürnberg recently in the SUSE offices to work on several projects.

The team had a number of ideas and projects to tackle, but had to prioritize and tackle the most interesting and viable ones first.

Installation in IPv6 Environment

IPv6 is now in much better shape with YaST. The installation in an IPv6 project has been completed to a point where installing openSUSE over an IPv6 network is possible. The code is already checked in. See this post on YaST on IPv6 for more info.

SOA for YaST

The next project was to define a service-oriented architecture for YaST, ideally REST based. The goal is that for any other system to use YaST functionality should be as easy as doing a smple HTTP request, even using curl from the command line and refactor modules toward this architecture.

This affects a couple of other research areas, namely:

Make YaST Independent of YCP
Using CIM from YaST modules (not required)
YaST DBus Service
YaST PackageKit Service
YaST Web User Interface (side effect possibility)

For this project, we split a big team of people to cover each one of the areas of research.

At the end we came up with a REST based API proposal for the NTP configuration. Our plan is to prototype a complete vertical area first. A simple prototype for a client Web application to change the time using the Web service was developed for testing purposes.

Another team focused on implementing the service itself based on our APIs. This produced a Django prototype which performs the tasks, and also PolicyKit integration for the Web requests.

Another team tried a different approach for PolicyKit integration at the SCR (System Configuration Repository) level which could bring some role-based management to YaST today, while the other approaches are more focused on a Web service interface.

The team got interesting results, like the timezone dialog, which had widgets disabled because it was running as a user, but after setting up PolicyKit, it allowed the user to change that setting.

At least the last project will probably make its code into YaST very soon to provide role-based management for some specific usecases. The code of the Web services research will probably be the base to experiment with different approaches, but we are not sure if that will be part of the different implementation.

YaST Interface for Webpin

The YaST interface for Webpin was also was completed, and it is very cool for our community users. It basically allows you to search for packages that you don’t have in your repositories directly from YaST, using the Webpin Web service from Benjamin Weber.

We are now discussing how to integrate YaST and Webpin more.

YaST module using mod_ui directly

The mod_ui project was about trying the concept of the modular user interface for first time. You may remember when Stefan Hundhammer made the multi-desktop-terminal-whatever library libyui independant of YaST.

So the YaST teams wanted to try if it would be possible to write a YaST module with it, and at the same time they say, lets use registration, which needs a UI “rethink” anyway. We are not yet sure if this module will replace the current registration, there are some things that need to be figured out, but at least we will take the UI concepts. See the post for more details.

Getting Involved with YaST

The workshop is over, but there’s still plenty to do with YaST. If you’re interested in contributing to YaST or learning more about how to write YaST modules, see the tutorial on the wiki, and join the YaST team on IRC on irc.opensuse.org in the #yast channel and subscribe to yast-devel on the openSUSE mailing lists.

Federico Mena-Quintero: Thu 2008/Aug/07

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:13:47 -0700

How to use rpm2git

Here is a second screencast on rpm2git (Ogg Theora, 69 MB). This one tells you how to use rpm2git to take the patches from a SRPM and put them in a Git branch.
During GUADEC in Stuttgart and in Dublin, Evangelia Berdou was interviewing people about how they contribute in GNOME. She used this information for her dissertation, Managing the Bazaar: Commercialization and peripheral participation in mature, community-led Free/Open source software projects. Over 100 people from the GNOME Foundation contributed to her study!

There is very valuable information in this work: how many core-platform hackers, core-desktop hackers, secondary-desktop hackers, translators, and peripheral contributors do we have? Which of them are employed to work only on GNOME, on GNOME and other free software, or are not paid for their contributions? How do people move from being peripheral contributors to core ones?

For people thinking about which sub-group of GNOME needs better tools (translators!) and support from GNOME at large, this is exactly what they need to read.

Jan-Simon Möller: GUI with python and libyui

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:13:46 -0700

For some days now I’m working on a GUI written in python. I needed X and konsole, so I gave python-yui (python-binding of libyui) a try.
Libyui is the YaST2 User Interface library and python-yui is part of openSUSE 11.0.
If you want to have a quick look you can try my (demo-) widgets.py. It shows some, but not all widgets available. Klaus Kaempf uploaded it to the svn (tnx!).
Dependency:
zypper in python-yui wget -nd "http://svn.opensuse.org/svn/yast/trunk/libyui-bindings/swig/python/examples/widgets.py"
a) with GTK/QT GUI:
python widget.py
b) with ncurses/konsole GUI:
export DISPLAY2 = $DISPLAY; unset DISPLAY; python widget.py ; export DISPLAY=$DISPLAY2 ; unset DISPLAY2
Have Phun!

openSUSE News: Announcing Hack Week III

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:14:56 -0700

Novell is once again sponsoring Hack Week — and we want you to be in on it! Hack Week III (HW3) runs from August 25th through August 29th.

What’s Hack Week? Hack Week is a chance for Novell’s developers to work on Innovation Time Off (ITO) projects, uninterrupted by normal hacking duties. This helps provide an opportunity for Novell’s developers to work on innovative new projects they might not normally be able to work on. Since most of the projects developed during Hack Week are open source, this also benefits the community by providing new code.

During Hack Week, developers can work on any project of interest. So far Hack Week has spawned a number of impressive projects and improvements, such as Debian package support in the openSUSE Build Service, Tasque, Giver, and many others.

For HW3, we’re encouraging members of the openSUSE community to get involved as well, either by working on their own Hack Week projects, or by collaborating with Novell developers to create or enhance open source projects.

We are sponsoring travel for a limited number of contributors. If you’re interested in working on a project in person, please contact Andreas Jaeger (aj@suse.de) by August 12th. We will also be announcing ways for community contributors to participate in Hack Week III remotely, stay tuned to news.opensuse.org and opensuse-announce for details.

Michal Zugec: Installation via wireless network

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:14:44 -0700

I fixed some issues in yast2-network-2.17.16 and did some tests and the result is : it works fine!

1 - Boot into any already installed linux, download kernel & initrd, create /boot/grub/menu.lst entry - some documentation here, also possible to use miniISO

2 - Into bootloader pass install=$custom_or_public_NETWORK_repository option

3 - Unplug your wired card

4 - With this setup will Linuxrc try to use your wireless network card to connect network repository. There are some dialogs to specify ESSID, WEP/WPA and sharedkey

5 - In case of connection succeed, do installation as usual (via wireless ;-))

6 - Before first reboot this network setup will be saved as persistent (into /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-wlan0)

7 - During next boot (2nd stage of installation) wireless network is automatically up and you can finish installation

Jan Nieuwenhuizen: 2008-08-05: Tuesday

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:17:15 -0700

Look at [Svx]TabControl's .src dialog bits.
Digest and look at some of _rene_'s requirements.
Implement TabControl and TabDialog wrappers and extend Window, Dialog and Button wrappers.
Convert SfxTabDialog to layout and get it to compile. With a bit of extra effort this will probably run as a standalone test, but this option forces *every* dialog based on SfxTabDialog to be converted along with this patch.

Jan Nieuwenhuizen: 2008-08-06: Wednesday

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:17:15 -0700

Make a layout'ed version of SfxTabDialog available alongside the plain SfxTabDialog using cpp hacking. Without much effort--adding an ID to <tabcontrol> and setting all widgets' IDs in the C++ code--it indeed runs as a standalone test. There seems to be some confusion about where to add tab pages and where/how to remove buttons, though :-)
Work with Ivo to get W3K build workarounds in for m30.
Team talk on ooo-build.git & Team meeting.

Pascal Bleser: Thunderbird/Enigmail: fix quoting

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:17:14 -0700

At some point Thunderbird/Enigmail started quoting using "|" instead of the standard ">".
Finally bothered to find a way to fix this!

When you have the about:config extension, read this thread on the enigmail forum.

When not, do it by directly editing Thunderbird's prefs.js:

for f in ~/.thunderbird/*/prefs.js; do 
echo 'user_pref("mailnews.send_plaintext_flowed", false);' >>"$f";
done

Cairo-Dock - Desktop dock for openSUSE Linux

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:23:30 -0700

Cairo-Dock is a simple but effective feature rich dock for your openSUSE Linux. Ever since, Fabounet proposed a version improved, with a very ergonomic configuration newer versions are followed at an...

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Federico Mena-Quintero: Wed 2008/Aug/06

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:19:24 -0700

Two things that made my day today.

First, Andrew Jorgensen packaged Meld for openSUSE 11.0, based on Pavol Rusnak's version, which makes git-mergetool awesome.

Two, Ivan Zlatev packaged git-merge-changelog (README), which makes merging ChangeLog entries surprisingly painless. You can even cherry-pick from other branches, where the ChangeLog's diff would not apply cleanly to the destination branch, and git-merge-changelog Just Works(tm) without any manual intervention. This *is* magic.
rpm2git screencast

Here is a little screencast about the problem that rpm2git tries to solve (Ogg Theora, 12.5 MB):

You can also watch the rpm2git screencast in opensuse.blip.tv.

(Screencast recorded with recordMyDesktop. Man, my voice sucks. I swear it sounded better inside my head.)

Jigish Gohil: Mukt.in report

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:18:52 -0700

This was my first visit to Hyderabad, the trip was great, it was full of ancient monuments, pearls, meeting of open source geeks, biryani and a lot of rain. I did two sessions at the event, one on openSUSE 11.0 installation and another on KIWI-LTSP. We PXE booted up the entire lab into KDE 4.1 from my laptop. Here are the slides of my talk.

I also met with a lot of students, open source enthusiast, fellow speakers from different parts of the country. Special thanks to Krish and his team for taking good care of all of us.

Click here for the entire album.

Tuxmaniac’s report.

Vidya’s report

Novell OpenPR Blog: We’re all connected

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:18:52 -0700

Recently, the Ganglia project, an open source, scalable, distributed monitoring system for high-performance computing systems, announced that it has released version 3.1. Deployed on thousands of computing clusters worldwide, organizations like University of California, Flickr and Stanford Linear Accelerator are using Ganglia to improve performance and get greater configuration options.

Ganglia also happens to be another open source project that has a connection to Novell, as one of Novell’s senior software engineers, Brad Nicholes, is also a developer on the project.

For more information on Ganglia or to downloaded the latest release, go here. Documentation and details on the project can also be found here and here. Finally, to more get information about other open source initiatives and projects that Novell is involved with go here.

Marcus Meissner: Vacation...

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:17:58 -0700

The MRI scan did not show problems and another Lyme Borreliose antibody test was negative too,
same as a standard allergy test.

Good to know I am healthy from the doctors views.

To cut out the burnout factor from the health equation I am now on a 2 weeks leave and trying to wind down.

This week at home trying to sort out my mess here and starting Saturday on the Linux Bier Wanderung in the Switzerland Alps for 9 days.

This is the first vacation since May 2005 where I will not read my work e-mails. But you will get answers afterwards, and my team will have handled all security questions already.

Also tried to get the Canon IXUS Wireless to connect wirelessly. Still not working with another Windows XP setup. The camera actually joins my WPA-PSK network, and I can telnet to the PTP/IP port. I might just need to know the right 16 byte GUID and hostname, or perhaps the camera expects a uPnP style bring up before it answers correctly. Still no idea.

I also plan to sniff the WLAN trace of the Wireless DirectPrint Adapter as soon as I come back to work where there are DirectPrint capable Canon printers. Perhaps it can be used from the computer too.

Jordi Massaguer: installing a local build service on openSUSE 11

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:17:58 -0700

I recently installed a build service (http://en.opensuse.org/buildservice) on an openSUSE11 for demonstration purposes and here are my notes.

The build service is a GREAT tool in order to help you build packages for openSUSE but also for other distributions like Ubuntu, Fedora, ... so if you are building your own software and would like to distribute it by providing installers for different linux, this may be your tool.

I'll talk about the internals another day, but today I'll talk about how to install it.

The easiest way is to go to http://download.opensuse.org and search for obs. You'll find a product call obs-server. Click on the one-click-install and everything will be done (adding the openSUSE:Tools repo and installing the different components.

Once you have done that, that was pretty easy, you open the file /usr/share/doc/packages/obs-api/README.setup and follow the instructions.

However, I came up with some problems so I am giving the following advice:

1- If you have problems with authentication or authorization on the database, and if your platform is for testing, just use the root mysql user with no password. Warning: never do that on production systems!!

2- If your firefox does not find your application, like happened to me, use virtual hosts. As this is only for demonstration, I edit the /etc/hosts and add:

127.0.42.1 obs

127.0.42.2 obs2

127.0.42.3 obs3

and then change the 127.0.42.* by the corresponding obs* name on

/etc/lighttpd/vhosts.d/obs.conf

/srv/www/obs/webclient/config/environments/production_slave.rb (IMPORTANT: this change is not on the README.setup and you have to do it. I sent a ticket to bugzilla.novell.com so they can add it to it, but until then, you have to remember that, or make a grep)

Adapt the README.setup instructions to use those virtual hosts.

After following the instrucions, you'll be able to login as admin (password opensuse).

You can create a new user from http://obs2 (login with the admin user).

Then, you can login as the new user and create a project and a package. I am attaching here a simple spec you can use to test the building process. One that not requires more than this spec. After that, add the openSUSE10.3 repository (or anyother suse) and press "trigger rebuild".

After that, the build should start. If you do not see any message, press the "update" icon on the build section.

And to end with this very fast introduction on setting up a build service on an openSUSE11, we can change the openSUSE logo by one of our choice by editing the file

/srv/www/obs/webclient/app/views/layouts/application2.rhtml

look for the geeko.jpg and replace that by your own logo.

#
# simple spec file for testing the build service
#

# norootforbuild

Name: simple
License: BSD 3-Clause
Group: System/Fhs
Version: 11.0
Release: 47.1
Summary: Simple rpm
BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-build

%description
This package contains a simple file for testing the build service.

%prep

%build

%install
touch $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/simple

%files
%defattr(644,root,root,755)
/simple

Vincent Untz: Certificate fun and how Mozilla can help

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:17:58 -0700

Yay! Certificates are the latest hot topic. I had a discussion about this with a few people back at the RMLL because lots of users there were complaining about it. I have no strong opinion on this myself, but it strikes me that Mozilla could help here.

The worst problem is self-signed certificates, which are especially common in our free software world. People have commented that using CAcert should help, but as long as the CAcert root certificates are not installed by default with your browser, this won't help much. And it seems this is not going to happen (well, at least for Firefox) because of Mozilla's CA certificate policy. I guess other browsers have a similar policy, and the policy itself probably makes some sense.

So what can Mozilla do? Let's look at the Mozilla Manifesto (which seems to be offline at the moment -- but you can look at the archived version). The fourth principle is related to this issue and reads as Individuals' security on the Internet is fundamental and cannot be treated as optional.. And then in the Mozilla Foundation pledge, you can read use the Mozilla assets (intellectual property such as copyrights and trademarks, infrastructure, funds, and reputation) to keep the Internet an open platform. Can you see where I'm heading?

I believe the Mozilla Foundation could use some of its assets to be a certificate authority that operates in a compitable way with its own CA certificate policy. It would offer this service to non-commercial entities that respects some criteria. I'm not going to put a list of potential criteria here, but I guess many free software projects would qualify and would benefit of this. This would fix what Chris highlights in his post, ie, the fact that it affects the free software community more than others. And it would also help improve the user experience web, which is one of Mozilla's missions.

Joe Brockmeier: Today’s the big day: openSUSE Day at LinuxWorld Expo

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:14:33 -0700

Hello from San Francisco! LinuxWorld Expo is going pretty well so far — we ran out of DVDs at the booth yesterday, which was a pleasant problem to have — I hope all the folks who snagged a DVD went straight home and installed openSUSE 11.0 on their computer, their neighbor’s computer, and any other computers that happened to be lying around. The booth was busy most of the day, with a few lulls that I think coincided with keynotes.

We had a great booth staff — Martin Lasarsch, Adrian Schroeter, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett, Ross Brunson, and volunteer Holden Aust were all fielding questions, tossing DVDs, and giving out some of the swag…

Today is the big day, though — we’ll be doing the openSUSE Day today in room 131 of the Moscone Center, which is just a short hop away from the exhibit floor. The schedule is on the wiki. We have quite a few really good talks. If you happen to be at LWE, be sure to stop by the openSUSE Day.

Michael Meeks: 2008-08-05: Tuesday.

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:18:39 -0700

Prodded mail properly for the first time: wow, there is a lot of it. Played with Empathy some more, looks good, writing down the minor irritations for future reference / fixing.
Caught up with a certain amount of admin / bug filing. Call from Murfitts / builders wrt. a deadline for their quote: end of the month.

Roger Whittaker: Human Penguins

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:16:54 -0700

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2505563/Edinburgh-Zoo-visitors-see-human-penguin-performance.html

Federico Mena-Quintero: Tue 2008/Aug/05

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:14:30 -0700

I'm no security expert, but the Firefox guys keep saying that the new "this SSL certificate is funny" scheme in Firefox 3 is actually a good thing, but that is just bullshit.

Certificates are broken as designed because every web browser (including Firefox 3) has a button that says "let me access the site anyway", and that's what everyone, including yours truly, does all the time. People just do not know, nor care, how to ensure that a certificate is valid. "What's a certificate, anyway? The site says it is secure!"

If anything, the new scheme for funny certificates in Firefox 3 is worse than it was before, because the warnings are more frequent. So, you get really well-conditioned to hitting the button that says, "begone, stupid warning, and let me access the fucking web site already".

SUSE Linux Enterprise in the Americas: AppArmor wins a 2008 BOSSIE

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:14:28 -0700

InfoWorld announced their winners of the 2008 Best of Open Source Software (BOSSIE) awards this week. The complete list is available here. Several of the winners are included and supported as part of SUSE Linux Enterprise from Novell. One of note is that AppArmor beat out SELinux for the BOSSIE in the category of Application Security. Why? I’ll let InfoWorld’s words do all the talking…

The choice here is between two strong contenders: AppArmor and SELinux. Last year we picked SELinux, included in Red Hat and a favorite with the security community. This year we’re going with AppArmor, due to its superior ease of use and, well, momentum. AppArmor continues to be bundled with Suse and has caught on with Ubuntu and Mandriva. AppArmor protects applications through the use of mandatory access controls: permissions set by the underlying system — not by users — that prevent coding flaws or bugs in applications from being manipulated for malicious purposes.

Congratulations to the AppArmor team and those of all the other BOSSIE winners! Your leadership and efforts in bringing the highest quality software to the open-source world is greatly appreciated!!

What can YOU do to show your appreciation? Simply familiarize yourself with these outstanding applications, maybe even try one out, and see how they can help free you…

Novell User Communities: SLES: x86 virtualization and SUSE Linux Enterprise Server

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:15:20 -0700

The emergence of broadly deployed x86-based virtualization is causing an evolution of the role of an operating system. Novell is in an excellent position to take advantage of these changes and provide differentiation from other operating system vendors.

Cool Blogs: Official Novell Bloggers

Novell OpenPR Blog: IBM and SUN get real. Real time that is.

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:14:11 -0700

SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time continues to gain market momentum. Within the past few days, both IBM and SUN have added support for their real-time middleware and Java hardware on SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time.

SUSE Linux Enterprise Real Time is a fully supported, real-time operating system, specifically engineered to reduce latency, and increase the predictability and reliability of time-sensitive, mission-critical applications.

With Sun and IBM’s support and endorsement, enterprises running latency-sensitive, mission-critical Java applications, such as financial institutions, can be assured of the highest possible performance and availability across their entire solution stack.

SUSE Linux Enterprise in the Americas: Nautilus Tips and Tricks

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:14:28 -0700

From the article:

Nautilus is the graphical file manager (along with a few other nice features) in GNOME. Most users only use the bare minimum features of Nautilus (including me, as I’m mainly a console jockey) and don’t realize how powerful and flexible Nautilus truly is.

Novell Open Audio: Linux: Whats new in ZENworks 10 Configuration Management

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:13:33 -0700

Laurence Pitt sits down with Randy and Dave to discuss whats new in ZENworks 10 Configuration Management. With the new release of Novellreg; ZENworksreg; 10 Configuration Management is now more powerful and flexible while being even easier to use than ever before. If you're already using ZENworks Configuration Management, prepare to be amazed by the enhancements we have made in platform support, scalability, role-based administration, load balancing, inventory, imaging, content delivery and more. If you've never used ZENworks Configuration Management, schedule a demo and prepare to be blown away!

Martin Schlander: Farewell KDE3 and hello KDE4

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:15:00 -0700

After checking out KDE 4.x at arms length for months, I had decided that I would try out 4.1.0 fulltime on my “production” machine for at least a week, when it was officially released.

After a slightly frustrating first few days configuring everything and figuring out how to get around all the quirks, I seem to have gotten everything set up more or less to my liking. So now that the week has passed it looks like I’ll be staying on KDE4 from now on.

I still don’t find it quite as pleasurable as KDE3, and I have to keep recommending KDE3 to demanding users and non-geeks for now. But it looks like a truly enjoyable KDE 4.1.x desktop on openSUSE 11.1 this December is possible. Now that I’m using it full time I can better provide feedback to the packagers, help out new users, and eat my own dog food in terms of translations.

Chenthill P: EDS C# backends

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:14:01 -0700

I have been working on C# bindings for the EDS backends during this weekend and in some free time. Once this is complete one can write backends for Ice Core, exchange web services, google calendar, remember the milk etc. in C#. With so many client libraries available and rapidness in developing code using c# it would be fun to write backends for EDS

This is what I have done currently,

A BackendLoaderFactory which would load the mono runtime and register all the methods defined by IBackend.cs interace for a c# backend. It will look for .xml files from the extensions/mono directory and load all the c# backends. So a Loader factory would have a list of porotcols supported.
c# bindings for libedata-cal using gapi which includes the classes, ECalBackend,ECalBackendSexp and ECalBackendCache. I have put it in evolution-sharp at the moment.
MonoBackend which acts as a connector between the c# and c backend. This implements all the virtual functions to invoke the corresponding api in c#.
I have implemented 5 apis at the moment which send/get strings/int values from c#.

gapi2-parser was not able to parse a particular class ECalBackend. It said it could not parse a method “last_client_gone” whereas it was able to parse other files. After trying different things, I had a look in to the gapi2xml.pl and found that it was unable to find the class name. The reason was the struct was typdef in some other common header file rather than e-cal-backend.h It was nice to sort out the issue.around

Some things which are in progress are,

Implement the the apis which needs to send/get a list of strings
Notifications calls from c# to c backend.
Some documentation and a template .cs file to quickly have all the virtual functions.

One of the queries which I have is,

* Is to good to have the provider bindings in evolution-sharp.dll library itself or put it in a separate one ?

Once I get a complete c# backend working in calendar which is not too far ;), am planning to start writing the bindings for mailer. I already know of one gnome hacker (also the calendar co maintainer) who is very interested in developing Remember the milk backend for EDS using c# which is encouraging me to get it completed fast. Am currently using google calendar .net library for implementing the first c# backend.

This picture with miguel during GUADEC was so encouraging!! and am going to preserve it for a long time to come Thanks to kangaroo (who was the person to help me with my first issue in mono loader), ankit (showing the right places for me to look at anytime), jhonny (with evo-sharp) and all others who is helping me This is first time am writing code in c# and it feels good!!